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7 Apr 2011 00:46 |
I have drawn a blank finding information about my great grandmother Lizzie O'Hara who was born in Belfast c1873 to Robert O'Hara and Annabelle (?) . At some point they moved to Glasgow where Lizzie married my great grandfather, John Cruickshank, on 25/8/1891
Any information would be much appreciated.
Thanks Elaine
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Astra
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7 Apr 2011 07:07 |
Mother Agnes perhaps?
Lizzie O'hara Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relationship: Doum Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 644/1 Registration district: Bridgeton Civil parish: Glasgow Bridgeton County: Lanarkshire Address: 19 Nueaton St Occupation: Winder ED: 77 Household schedule number: 67 Line: 7 Roll: CSSCT1891_242 Household Members: Name Age Robert O'hara 48 Agnes O'hara 46 Lizzie O'hara 17 Robert O'hara 14 Agnes O'hara 12 Edmond McDowell 23 Alfred Maud 24
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Eringobragh1916
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7 Apr 2011 09:03 |
From IGI...Parents Robert Jones O'Hara and Agnes McMillan O'Hara....
1. Margaret Campbell O'Hara - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 02 OCT 1880 Belfast, Antrim, Ireland 2. MARGARET ELIZABETH O'HARA - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 26 JUN 1871 , Antrim, Ireland 3. Josephine Mc Millen O'Hara - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 24 MAR 1873 Antrim, Antrim, Ireland
5. Agnes Robertina O'Hara - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Birth: 27 JAN 1875 , Antrim, Ireland
If you check out the MC of Lizzie on Scotlands People it will give details of parents.
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rootgatherer
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7 Apr 2011 09:25 |
Is this your Lizzie in 1901 please?
Name: Lizzie O Harard Cruickshank Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relationship: Wife Spouse's name : John Cruickshank Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 168/1 Registration district: St Nicholas Civil parish: Aberdeen North County: Aberdeenshire Address: 70 Wales Street Occupation: House Wife ED: 23 Household schedule number: 16 Line: 2 Roll: CSSCT1901_52 Household Members: Name Age John Cruickshank 30 Lizzie O Harard Cruickshank 26 Robert Cruickshank 4 James Cruickshank 2 George Cruickshank 10 MO I don't see her parents yet in 1901.
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rootgatherer
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7 Apr 2011 09:31 |
This looks like her brother Robert living with her married sister Agnes in 1901. Could the parents have died or returned to Ireland? Have you looked on Scotlandspeople for possible deaths for them? Agnes's marriage certificate should say if they are deceased. On here it doesn't say if Robert (Junior) is a widower but that looks like his child Annabelle?
Name: Robert Ohara Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relationship: Brother In Law Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 644/3 Registration district: Dennistoun Civil parish: Glasgow Springburn County: Lanarkshire Address: 3 River Street Occupation: Boiler-man (tar) ED: 123 Household schedule number: 59 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1901_279 Household Members: Name Age William Harrison 26 Agnes Harrison 22 Jane Harrison 1 William Harrison 1mth Robert Ohara 24 Annabella Ohara 4 Niece
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rootgatherer
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7 Apr 2011 09:38 |
I think we have two different O'Hara families. Here are the ones that Eringobragh has found on the IGI. They are living in Belfast in 1901.
Residents of a house 15 in Hillview Place (Shankhill, Antrim)
Show all informationSurname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion Birthplace Occupation Literacy Irish Language Marital Status Specified Illnesses O'Hara Agnes R 24 Female Daughter Wesleyan Methodist Carrickfergus Music Teacher Read and write - Not Married - O'Hara Josephine 26 Female Daughter Wesleyan Methodist Belfast Machinist Read and write - Not Married - O'Hara Annie L 22 Female Daughter Wesleyan Methodist Belfast Machinist Read and write - Not Married - O'Hara Margery C 20 Female Daughter Wesleyan Methodist Belfast Nurse Read and write - Not Married - O'Hara Robert Jones 54 Male Father Wesleyan Methodist Belfast Watchmaker and Jeweller Read and write - Married - O'Hara Frederick Wm 15 Male Son Wesleyan Methodist Wolfhill, Belfast Scholar Read and write - Not Married - O'Hara Agnes Mc M 48 Female Wife Wesleyan Methodist Belfast Watchmaker and Jeweller Read and write - Married -
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Eringobragh1916
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7 Apr 2011 10:15 |
Thanks for the above rootgatherer........ Have found the following however no other children found....as yet.....There cannot be many Annabelles but Elaine doesn't say where she obtained that info.....
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Agnes O'Hara Pedigree Female
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Event(s): Birth: 13 JUL 1878 Antrim, Antrim, Ireland
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parents: Father: Robert O'Hara Family Mother: Anabella McKibben OHara
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rootgatherer
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7 Apr 2011 10:20 |
Now that does look good Eringobragh! I do think that the mother was probably Anaabelle give that the son Robert seems to have named his daughter Annabelle.
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Eringobragh1916
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7 Apr 2011 10:35 |
Have found an Annabelle McKibben b Belfast to Thomas McKibben and Anne Wallace but that is abt.1860...possible for Agnes but not for dob of Lizzie..!! "Maura" needs to get in on this one...she can find a needle in a haystack..!!
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Maura
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7 Apr 2011 12:16 |
Morning Erin, right found these births for children of Robert O'Hara & a Ann/Anna/Anabella McKibben/McKibbin all born Belfast.
William James 1865 Anna Mary 1867 George Alexander 1869 Edward 1871 Eliza 1874 Robert 1876 Agnes 1878
Robert O'Hara married Anna McKibbin 27th November 1864 in Knockbreda C.O.I. Belfast Co.Down
Robert & Anna father's name is George
births & marriage on www.ancestryireland.com
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Maura
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7 Apr 2011 13:00 |
There's a death on Scotlandpeople for a Annabella O'Hara nee McKibben 1897 Bridgeton estimated year of birth 1845
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Joy
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7 Apr 2011 13:10 |
For anyone of Belfast ancestry, it is well worth looking / posting here - http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/
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Joy
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7 Apr 2011 13:13 |
I believe that her birth registration can be found here: http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1408347 An index of Ireland civil registration including births, 1864-1958, marriages, 1845-1958, and deaths, 1864-1958.
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Maura
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7 Apr 2011 13:15 |
There's a tree on ancestry that has these people in it, they have Robert O'Hara sr. dying 1907, plus the have the name of the Annabella parents.
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Maura
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7 Apr 2011 14:28 |
Name: Eliza Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place: 331, BELFAST NO 4, ANT, IRE Birth Date: 22 Jan 1874 Birthplace: Belfast No 4, Ant, Ire Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Robert O'Hara Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Ann Mckibbin Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age:
Name: Robert O'Hara Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place: Birth Date: 14 Jan 1876 Birthplace: Belfast, Antrim, Ireland Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Robert O'Hara Father's Birthplace: 51 Railway St. Father's Age: Mother's Name: Ann O'Hara Mckibbin Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00601-0 System Origin: Ireland-EASy Source Film Number: 255944 Reference Number: v 1-1 p 329 Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
Name: George Alexander O'Hara Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place: Birth Date: 21 Aug 1869 Birthplace: Antrim, Ireland Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Robert O'Hara Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Annie Mc Kibbin Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01209-4 System Origin: Ireland-EASy Source Film Number: 101190 Reference Number: v 11-1 p 351 Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
Name: Anna Mary O Hara Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place: Birth Date: 11 Oct 1867 Birthplace: Antrim, Ireland Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Robert O Hara Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Anna Mc Kibben Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01185-0 System Origin: Ireland-EASy Source Film Number: 101155 Reference Number: v 16-1 p 332 Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
Name: Edward Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place: 310, BELFAST NO 4, ANT, IRE Birth Date: 09 Nov 1871 Birthplace: Belfast No 4, Ant, Ire Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Robert O Hara Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Annie Mc Kibbin Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70146-5 System Origin: Ireland-VR Source Film Number: 255832 Reference Number: - 2:2CSPMGC Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
Name: William James Ohara Gender: Male Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place: Birth Date: 10 Oct 1865 Birthplace: 0323,BELFAST,ANTRIM,IRELAND Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Robert Ohara Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Annie Mckibbin Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C70126-7 System Origin: Ireland-ODM Source Film Number: 101115 Reference Number: Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
Name: Agnes O'Hara Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: Baptism/Christening Place: Birth Date: 13 Jul 1878 Birthplace: Antrim, Antrim, Ireland Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Robert O'Hara Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Anabella Mckibben Ohara Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00745-8 System Origin: Ireland-EASy Source Film Number: 256008 Reference Number: v 1-1 p 301 Collection: Ireland Births and Baptisms, 1620-1881
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Elaine
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11 Apr 2011 17:46 |
Thank you all for your replies and input...Lizzie Ohara's mother is definately Annabelle McKibben as I could see that on Lizzie's marriage certificate ..Thank you Maura, I can now add siblings to my great grandmother's side.
I have just discovered that I am actually the 2nd cousin (through Lizzie Ohara) of a family friend who's son was the best man at my daughter's wedding 3 years ago. A very small world indeed.
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Elaine
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11 Apr 2011 17:51 |
I am new to this and must say I am rather impressed at how helpful your replies have been...thanks again all.
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rootgatherer
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12 Apr 2011 09:11 |
Elaine, I don't know where you live but if you can manage to visit the Mitchell Library in Glasgow, they hold the Poor Relief Records. These can be very usueful when tracing Irish ancestors who cam to Glasgow. They often give more information than can be found elsewhere. Do remember that often people claimed because they needed hospital treatment and were no longer able to work. For example the family maybe have had to make a claim in 1907 when Robert died. Hope this helps and good luck with your research.
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William
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15 Nov 2015 12:41 |
You may get the result in census, birth, deaths. Among Scotlandspeople records
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