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15 Oct 2015 22:33 |
Mabel is another one with grandparents. Her father must have died when she was very young, poor child.
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Suffolk Street, Norwich Heigham, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Maria Rollings Head Widow Female 53 1828 Dressmaker Norwich, Norfolk, England Transcription Mary Ann Rollings Daughter Single Female 25 1856 Laundress Norwich, Norfolk, England Transcription Mabel Rollings Grand Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Norwich, Norfolk, England Transcription Herbert Rollings Grand Son Single Male 7 1874 Scholar Norwich, Norfolk, England Transcription James Rollings Grand Son Single Male 1 1880 - Norwich, Norfolk, England
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Speeke Street, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Maria Rollings Head Widow Female 62 1829 Laundress Norwich, Norfolk, England Transcription James Rollings Son Single Male 32 1859 Groom Norwich, Norfolk, England Transcription Herbert Rollings Grandson Single Male 17 1874 Bird & Animal Preserver Norwich, Norfolk, England Transcription Mabel Rollings Granddaughter - Female 13 1878 Scholar Norwich, Norfolk, England
National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription Print transcription View image First name(s) Mabel Maria Last name Rollings of King Street Birth year 1877 Birth date 16 Oct 1877 Event year 1883 School name St Stephen's Girls School Town Norwich County Norfolk Country England Parent name(s) Maria Book type Admissions Archive reference N_ED_8_65
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Rambling
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15 Oct 2015 21:31 |
Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
CULLUM Hannah Norwich 4b 381 HOWARD George Norwich 4b 381
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15 Oct 2015 21:28 |
Was looking at the 1871 census for George with parents, but there is an entry for head, wife and son at something Yard...St martin at Oak, but there are no names just 'not known" :-|
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15 Oct 2015 21:05 |
witnesses?
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Stone Masons Yard, Norwich, Norfolk, England
George Howard Head Married Male 26 1865 Boot Finisher Norwich, Norfolk, England Hannah Howard Wife Married Female 25 1866 Silk Weaver Norwich, Norfolk,
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15 Oct 2015 19:37 |
Marriage Certificate arrived !! Frederick Howard aged 20, Occ, Boot Finisher. Dog Yard, St. Martin at Oak, Norwich. Father, John Howard, deceased. Occ, Shoemaker. marr. 26/4/1896 to:- Mabel Maria Rollings aged 18. Occ. Tailoress. King Street, Cookes Place, St. Stephens, Norwich. Father, Harry or Harvey (not clear) Rollings, deceased. Occ. Carpenter. Witnessed by:- Goerge Howard & Hannah Howard.
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Norfolkboy
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9 Oct 2015 20:22 |
Marriage Certificate ordered,
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Chris Ho :)
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9 Oct 2015 15:48 |
(below for Everitt one)
Chris :)
County Norfolk Place Norwich Church name St Peter Parmentergate Register type PR Register entry number 417 Marriage date 27 Sep 1897 Groom forename Everitt Frederick Groom surname HOWARD Groom age 23 Groom condition Bachelor Groom abode 109 Kings Road, Lakenham Groom occupation Baker Bride forename Lottie Emma Bride surname BUSSEY Bride age 21 Bride condition Spinster Bride abode Thorold's Building Groom father forename John Everitt Groom father surname HOWARD Groom father occupation Baker Bride father forename Isaac Bride father surname BUSSEY Bride father occupation Wherryman Witness1 forename John Samuel Witness1 surname HOWARD Witness2 forename Ethel Maud Witness2 surname BUSSEY Notes Banns
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ArgyllGran
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9 Oct 2015 13:42 |
All this is speculation, Norfolkboy.
You're best to follow RamblingRose's advice, and buy a copy of Frederick's marriage cert, to see who his father was.
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BeverleyW
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9 Oct 2015 07:51 |
The illegitimate Frederic could well be the son of the head of the household where his mother was housekeeper, since he has the same christian name.
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ArgyllGran
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8 Oct 2015 22:20 |
The Frederick who was with grandfather William and aunt Malinda in 1881 was born in Rudham, according to Ancestry version (and the image) - not Norwich:
Frederick Howard in the 1881 England Census Name: Frederick Howard Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1874 Relationship to Head: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Rudham, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Kings Lynn St Margaret County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address: 23 Double Row Registration district: King'S Lynn Sub registration district: Kings Lynn North ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1997 Folio: 89 Page Number: 11 Household Members: Name Age William Howard 52 Malinda Howard 19 John Howard 14 Frederick Howard 7
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8 Oct 2015 22:14 |
The one who's with James and Harriet in 1881, is described as Son in 1891, and has middle initial W:
Frederick W Howard in the 1891 England Census Name: Frederick W Howard Age: 14 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation: Son Father's name: James W Howard Mother's name: Harriet M Howard Gender: Male Where born: Norwich, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Heigham Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Registration district: Norwich ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1528 Folio: 139 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age James W Howard 54 Harriet M Howard 52 Frederick W Howard 14
and 1901 makes it clear he's not the father of albert Edward :
Frederick William Howard in the 1901 England Census Name: Frederick William Howard Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Alice Pheobe Howard Birth Place: Norwich, Norfolk, England Civil Parish: Norwich Ecclesiastical parish: Heigham Holy Trinity Town: Heigham County/Island: Norfolk Country: England Street address: Occupation: Grocer / warehouseman Condition as to marriage: Registration district: Norwich Sub-registration district: West Wymer ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1845 Folio: 52 Page Number: 8 Household schedule number: 69 Household Members: Name Age Frederick William Howard 24 Alice Pheobe Howard 25 Fred William Howard 6 Walter James Howard 2 Dorothy May Howard 2/12
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Norfolkboy
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8 Oct 2015 22:13 |
Pretty sure from past family talk that the Howards all came from Norwich.
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Norfolkboy
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8 Oct 2015 22:10 |
Yes, alviegal, Which one indeed ? There is also an Everett Frederick Howard or Frederick Everett Howard.
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8 Oct 2015 22:05 |
ECORDS GENEALOGIES CATALOG BOOKS WIKI Go To: Search Results COPY PRINT SOURCE BOX SHARE Attach to Family Tree Frederick Howard England and Wales Census 1881 Name Frederick Howard Event Type Census Event Date 1881 Event Place Castle Acre, Norfolk, England Registration District Freebridge Lynn Residence Note St James St Gender Male Age 5 Marital Status (Original) Single Occupation Scholar Relationship to Head of Household Son Birth Year (Estimated) 1876 Birthplace Castleacre, Norfolk, England Page Number 3 Registration Number RG11 Piece/Folio 1994/69 Affiliate Record Type Household HOUSEHOLD
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James Howard Head M 40 Castleacre, Norfolk, England Elizabeth Howard Wife F 39 Watton, Hertfordshire, England William Howard Son M 15 Castleacre, Norfolk, England Frederick Howard Son M 5 Castleacre, Norfolk, England
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BeverleyW
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8 Oct 2015 21:59 |
There's also this one:
Name Frederic Howard Event Type Census Event Date 1881 Event Place Norwich All Saints, Norfolk, England Registration District Norwich Residence Note Church Alley Gender Male Age 7 Marital Status (Original) Single Occupation Scholar Relationship to Head of Household Son Birth Year (Estimated) 1874 Birthplace Norwich, Norfolk, England Page Number 14 Registration Number RG11 Piece/Folio 1943/10 Affiliate Record Type Household
Frederic Cross Head M 34 Wortham, Suffolk, England Mary A Howard House Keeper Head F 35 Harwich, Essex, England Frederic Howard Son M 7 Norwich, Norfolk, England Alice Howard Daughter F 4 Norwich, Norfolk, England Charles Howard Son M 2 Norwich, Norfolk, England
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alviegal
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8 Oct 2015 21:46 |
Are these the two 1881s you have found?
I presume you are trying to determine which is your Frederick?
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 23, Double Row, Kings Lynn St Margaret, Kings Lynn, Norfolk, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Howard Head Widower Male 52 1829 Railway Labourer Norfolk, England Transcription Malinda Howard Daughter Single Female 19 1862 Housekeeper To Father Norfolk, England Transcription John Howard Son Single Male 14 1867 Farm Labourer Norfolk, England Transcription Frederick Howard Grand Son Single Male 7 1874 - Norfolk, England
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription Chapel Field RD, 13, Middle Row, Norwich Heigham, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Learn more Print transcription View image Household Members First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place James W Howard Head Married Male 44 1837 Waiter Norwich, Norfolk, England Transcription Harriet M Howard Wife Married Female 43 1838 Dressmaker Norwich, Norfolk, England Transcription Frederick Howard Grand Son Single Male 3 1878 - Norwich, Norfolk, England
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8 Oct 2015 21:35 |
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1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription 12, Wiggs Passage, Heigham, Norwich, Norfolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Frederick Howard Head Married Male 26 1875 Shoe Finisher Norwich, Norfolk, England Mabel Howard Wife Married Female 23 1878 - Norwich, Norfolk, England Frederick Howard Son Single Male 4 1897 - Norwich, Norfolk, England Beatrice Howard Daughter Single Female 2 1899 - Norwich, Norfolk, England Albert Howard Son Single Male 0 1901 - Norwich, Norfolk, England
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BeverleyW
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8 Oct 2015 21:34 |
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Frederick Howard Head M 26 Norwich, Norfolk <<Shoe finisher Mabel Howard Wife F 23 Norwich, Norfolk Frederick Howard Son M 4 Norwich, Norfolk Beatrice Howard Daughter F 2 Norwich, Norfolk Albert Howard Son M 0 Norwich, Norfolk
Event Place Norwich, Norfolk, England County Norfolk Civil Parish Norwich Ecclesiastical Parish St Philip Sub-District West Wymer Registration District Norwich Residence Note Wiggs Passage
Schedule Type 56 Page Number 8
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Rambling
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8 Oct 2015 21:32 |
The marriage cert will give you father's name if known
Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%)
Howard Frederick Norwich 4b 323 Scan Rollings Mabel Maria Norwich 4b 323
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Norfolkboy
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8 Oct 2015 21:25 |
5 yrs past and i need help please finding his father Frederick 1876, Parents etc. as the 1911 census, seems to be two of them on the 1881 census both as Grandson ??.
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