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Dea Dearest


Thats your alto ego ---------------Dee as in grEEdy


Now you have eaten - have a look for William Seager on Ancestry please


Cyns --------------------how on earth can anyone whip around MCA ----------it is worst than Nat Archives


Can you do one of your detailed instruction PM

Renes

And because I drank 3 pints when I got up at 4am this morning I now cannot stop piddling!

And no....not pints of beer...water. Which reminds me of a friend of mine years ago. She was quite suprised that I took a glass of water to bed every night.....

...........she took a can of Stella

I have just read a really gruesome inquest on poor Hannah Giles at
THE OTTERDEN MURDER .
The Morning Chronicle (London, England), Thursday, February 14, 1839; Issue 21604. on 19th Century British Library - naming him as Samuel Seager - will search on


Feel like Hetty Wainthrop

Cynthia..

As you love the Medway City Ark registers, this one is just for you ( and anyone else who would care to look)

I have a Sarah BILLS baptised 10 April 1831, at Allhallows.
Parents were Richard & Eleanor.

On census records Eleanor was listed as Ellen.

Found Baptism for Eliza BILLS 25 May 1834, Allhallows.
Parents Richard & Ellen

According to census records there should also have been a William b. c1838 and a Christopher b. c1843.

On the 1841, 1851 & 1861 census 'Ellen' is with children Plus a James CHAMBERS

At no time is Richard Bills listed with them.

To me this could indicate that Christopher is actually the son of James Chambers ... ?

But what happened to Richard... and when ??

Can anyone figure out how to get to this entry in Dover Telegraph please

SEAGER William Hanging Maidstone Wretched Man 1839 30-Mar page 4 column 3
SEAGER William Hanging Maidstone Report 1839 30-Mar
page 8 column 4

Julcoe

Would you say this is Richards baptism

England & Wales Christening Records, 1530-1906
about Richard Bills
Name: Richard Bills
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1807
Christening Date: 6 Dec 1807
Christening Place: Allhallows, Kent, England
Father's Name: John Bills
Mother's Name: Mary


What about this for his death?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915
about Richard Bills
Name: Richard Bills
Year of Registration: 1843
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Stepney (To 1921)
County: London, Middlesex
Volume: 2
Page: 326 (click to see others on page)

Hi Ginny,

I am fairly certain that it is 'my' Richards christening and I will make a note of the death... but if that is 'my' Richard why can I not find him on the 1841 census.

Have tried under Bills, Bells & Balls.... ??

There is this one in the union and not born in the parish.

1841 England Census
about Richard Hills
Name: Richard Hills
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Male

Civil parish: Linton
Hundred: Chilford
County/Island: Cambridgeshire
Country: England


Registration district: Linton
Sub-registration district: Linton
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Edmund Ogle 45
Robinett Varthy 70
Richard Rollison 70
Richard Harvis 50
Richard Simperinham 70
James Swan 30
Richard Bright 50
Richard Hills 35 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<Ag labourer
Thomas Pearson 60
John Stinton 80
Henry Casbolt 11
George Crane 10 MO
James Coote 8
William Chappell 1
Fredk Belsham 1 MO
Joseph Douglas 3 MO
Richard Duce 11
George Dockerill 14
John Deer 4 MO
Henry Everitt 8 Weeks
Edward Fitch 8 Weeks
William Hills 6 MO <<<<<<<<<
John Linidell 12
Fredk Lingdell 10
John Mansfield 12
Robt Mansfield 9
Charles Mosley 14
Richard Rooks 11
Edward Rooks 4
George Rice 13
Alfred Simperingham 12
Henry Simperingh 14
Samuel Parvis Renbell 8 MO
Janbella Mary Renell 3
Elizabeth Rentell 35
Elizabeth Arch 25
Mary Mott 60
Ann Booth 35
Mary Belshaw 25
Elizabeth Baldwin 45
Jemima Casbolt 30
Susan Cracknell 55
Mary Chappell 45
Rebecca Everitt 20
Sophia Fitch 15
Susan Hills 25 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Mary Ann Linsdell 45
Johnson Morley 15
Susan Mansfield 20
Lydia Marell 65
Dinah Minott 85
Amy Rooks 30
Rebecca Rice 50
Ann Stocks 24
Mary Shipp 20
Hannah Salmon 25
Ann Sheldrake 40
Martha Shelford 15
Mary Swan 30
Ann Wakefield 75
Sarah Webb 35
Sarah Unwin 70
Joanna Bentley 6
Ann Chappell 14
Rebecca Chappell 11
Esther Chappell 8
Sarah Casbolt 9
Sarah Crane 12
Mary Duce 9
Elizth Duce 7
Elizth Dockerell 13
Priscilla Deer 11
Susan Deer 7
Sarah Hills 9 <<<<<<<<
Elizth Hills 3 <<<<<<<<<
Mary Ann Linxdell 13
Mary Ann Mansfield 10
Harriett Shipp 2
Georgina Lingdell 10 MO
Ann Mansfield 1 6 MO
Ann Salinon 8
Susan Swan 11
Mary Ann Swan 7
Sarah Swan 2
Mary Ann Stocks 3 MO
Elizabeth Mansfield 3 MO
Thomas Bradford 56
Ann Bradford 35
Louisa Bradford 11


Maybe not then as there are other Hills here and I know they seperated the families up in the workhouse..men, women and children

Mind you the adult Sarah is too young to have one of those children?

Grrrrrrrrrrrr

Julcoe

There are a couple of ships records that could match but they dont really give any details

Also a couple of criminal records, again not worth posting as they give few details

Thanks for trying Ginny

This is 'my' family in 1841...

1841 England Census about Ellen Bills
Name: Ellen Bills
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Gender: Female

Civil parish: All Hallows
Hundred: Hoo
County/Island: Kent
Country: England

Street Address: Slough
Occupation: -

Registration district: Hoo
Sub-registration district: Hoo
Household Members: Name Age
James Chambers 50 .. Ag. Lab
Ellen Bills 35
Sarah Bills 10
Eliza Bills 7
William Bills 3

Next to Ellen's name (in occupation column) is Widow, but this has been crossed out

Either because she was not a widow or because being a widow was not an occupation ??

Ellen was not born in the Parish, but born at Southend, Essex.

Only here for a short while but back later.

For starters Julcoe...

Sarah
http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P188

_HOO_ALL_HALLOWS_1629_1976/01_Incumbent_Service_Registers_1629_1976/P188_01_04.html/00000078.jpg




Eliza.
http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P188_HOO_ALL_HALLOWS_1629_1976/01_Incumbent_Service_Registers_1629_1976/P188_01_04.html/00000081.jpg

This is for a Richard John - 1838 but it's hard to read the parents but definitely Bills.

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P188_HOO_ALL_HALLOWS_1629_1976/01_Incumbent_Service_Registers_1629_1976/P188_01_04.html/00000086.jpg

Ah.....it's a Robert and Susan I think......here is their next child, Robert.

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P188_HOO_ALL_HALLOWS_1629_1976/01_Incumbent_Service_Registers_1629_1976/P188_01_04.html/00000088.jpg


Just doing this to confuse you!!! hahaha. sorry.

Then, Robert and Susan have Elizabeth in 1844. Just listing all the Bills I find at the mo. Am happy to work backwards for you later.

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P188_HOO_ALL_HALLOWS_1629_1976/01_Incumbent_Service_Registers_1629_1976/P188_01_04.html/00000091.jpg



And then Mary in 1847......wonder what was causing all these kids????


http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P188_HOO_ALL_HALLOWS_1629_1976/01_Incumbent_Service_Registers_1629_1976/P188_01_04.html/00000092.jpg



Edit....and Sarah - 1850. No sign of the other lot.
http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P188_HOO_ALL_HALLOWS_1629_1976/01_Incumbent_Service_Registers_1629_1976/P188_01_04.html/00000095.jpg



Ann - 1854

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P188_HOO_ALL_HALLOWS_1629_1976/01_Incumbent_Service_Registers_1629_1976/P188_01_04.html/00000097.jpg

Thanks Cynthia.

I know you just wanted to make the page extra wide

From what I can work out, Robert Bills was my Richards brother.

I have the approx. year of birth for his children from census records, but not the Baptism date, so thank you.

It is William and Christopher that I am having trouble with.


Julie

Well, I think Robert and Susan finally bought a tv. Am up to 1871 and no sign of any more for them.

However, a new couple have appeared - Christopher and Frances with son William born 1871.

http://cityark.medway.gov.uk/query/results/?Mode=ShowImg&Img=/cityark/Scans/Ecclesiastical_Rochester_Archdeaconry_Area_Parishes/P188_HOO_ALL_HALLOWS_1629_1976/01_Incumbent_Service_Registers_1629_1976/P188_01_04.html/00000104.jpg

Am having sooo much fun with this but have gotta go out shopping with daughter. I'll willingly go backwards through to the 1600's for you later.



Renes, to whom did you wish me to send a pm? It'll have to be later though.

Cyns....please shorten your sentences

Your orf the page you numpty

Oooh... just slipped back to 1813.....Mary, daughter of John and Mary.

1822. George, son of George and Eleanor.

1824. Robert, son of William and Phillis.

Do you just want details or do you prefer the link??



Gotta go......arghhhh.

Thank you for what you have found.

That Christopher is the same C. who's birth I am looking for.

According to the census records he has children...
William, 1871 which you have found, plus ? Agnes 1873 ; Elizabeth, 1878 ;
Can not find them in 1891, but on 1901 there is also May 1888 and 'Winnie' 1898

I have 'cut & pasted' the link for William, and I can get to the Medway site but the record page will not open ??
The other pages worked ok, so I could get the actual dates for them.

Will try again later, maybe the site is just busy.. ??

But maybe the details would be better in case I can not get 'in'