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30 Apr 2016 22:54 |
Hi Craig - in an odd coincidence Kristen's post is almost a duplicate of Kelly's in which you have posted a reply, and the two were posted only weeks apart. Presumably Kelly and Kristen are related but as Kelly did not reply to additional info added to her thread she may not have seen it.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1229134
I added a note to you there and have also sent you a private message directing you back to the thread to see it, in case you expected that you would get notification of replies, which you won't. ;)
edit - Craig has read my PM. You're welcome, Craig.
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30 Apr 2016 15:38 |
Hi Kris, I don't expect you will see this after such a long time, but felt compelled to set the record straight and maybe help others. My name is Craig Baulderstone and i know quite a bit about Emily's parents Thomas and Charlotte and before and also only recently very curious about Emily's life. I thought that she had died much earlier but then learnt from a number of sources that is not the case. I know that Emily lived at Goodwood Road with her father Thomas up until his death in 1898 "South Australian Register, Adelaide, Saturday 2nd July, , Mr. .Thomas Baulderstone, of Goodwood road, died on Thursday, June 30, at his residence at the age of seventy-eight. He came to the colony in the ship Sultana in the year 1851, and engaged in farming pursuits as soon as he arrived, taking up the land— an 80-acre section— on which he lived during the whole of his colonial career. He was known as one of the best and most successful farmers in South Australia. By careful tillage he always managed to produce a succession of good crops, and varied the growth of wheat with that of barley, rye, peas, &c. He has left three sons— Mr. Henry Baulderstone, of Hackney; Mr. Thomas Baulderstone, of Mundoora; and Mr. George Baulderstone, of Sydney— and one daughter, Miss Emily Baulderstone, who had been living with him. He had also eleven grandchildren." This is from Trove - have you used this? Her eldest brother George moved from Adelaide to be a miner at Cullinga in NSW some years earlier than that, and it appears that after that she moved over to this area. She married Robert, also a Miner in 1908 that I have seen on the title to a large part of the now Adelaide suburb of Cumberland Park (as life estate that i haven't investigated yet) but was the Goodwood Road farm. "Robert George Cooper of Wombat, Miner on the 2 day of January 1908 at Christ Church Cootamundra". I am pretty sure Samuel is a different 'lot' but spelling means nothing back then because of course they were all illiterate. Emily Cooper (Baulderstone), who died in car accident 1938 (I think) - her parents were Thomas and Charlotte who came from Wickham Skeith in Suffolk England on the Sultana in 1851. Her Grandfather Christopher came via Pt. Arthur in 1834 after stealing 7 pigs, but her family goes back quite a long way in the vicinity of Wickham Skeith. Without rattling on too long, I mainly wanted to put you on the right track. Lastly, i think i saw in an obituary that George died at Emily's house, or with her support perhaps, in 1919. George remained unmarried and without children, so i like to think that after many years alone over there he had that family support there. Also i am descendent from her brother Thomas (jnr), my great grandfather and grew up on Palmer Ave, at the end of Baulderstone Rd in Myrtle Bank, SA that was the subdivision of his land. Happy to share anything i know with anyone, if you have any questions let me know. Also i would love to know any personal information you have heard about Emily and Roberts life. Also happy to correspond via email etc but that may be frowned upon - i have hardly used this site. I can refer you to family trees on Ancestry.com and My Heritage that i have assisted with if that helps - go back to 1600's for some. I have only done a months membership to be able to do this to help others, which is adding value to their site. I am not happy with this site extorting money from me to do this - don't mind paying when i am researching and getting info, but to give my knowledge simply to help others and have to pay for the privilege i do protest. Shame they don't have a free trial as with other sties.
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Kristen
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21 May 2010 23:32 |
Thank You All so very much, I am stoked to the response of my enquiry. It may be that the name had originally been Bolderson, so it's worth looking into. Kindest Regards Kris
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Vicci
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19 May 2010 01:51 |
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Name Relation Condition/ Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born Original census image BOLDERSON, Harold Son Single M 18 1893 Magoner Miner Coal Staffordshire Hanley VIEW BOLDERSON, Harry Son Single M 24 1887 Hewer Miner Coal Under Ground Staff Hanley VIEW BOLDERSON, Edward Son Single M 21 1890 Miner Coal Staff Hanley VIEW BOLDERSON, Samuel Head Married M 60 1851 Miner Staffs Burslem VIEW BOLDERSON, Charlotte Wife Married 30 years F 55 1856 Home Staffs Hanley VIEW BOLDERSON, Olive Daughter Single F 22 1889 Home Dress Maker Staffs Hanley VIEW BOLDERSON, Ethel Daughter Single F 14 1897 Home Staffs Hanley VIEW CRESSWELL, Jane Visitor Single F 23 1888 Servant Staffs Stoke VIEW WOOLLISCRAFT, Phyllis Niece Single F 5 1906 School Staffordshire Wolstanton VIEW RG number: RG14 Piece: 16556 Reference: RG14PN16556 RG78PN1023 RD361 SD2 ED8 SN93 Registration District: Stoke upon Trent Sub District: Stoke upon Trent Enumeration District: 8 Parish: Stoke upon Trent Address: 9 Davenport Street Stoke-Upon-Trent County: Staffordshire
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Vicci
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19 May 2010 01:43 |
still in UK 1901 Saml Bolderson Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1851 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Charlotte Gender: Male Where born: Burslem, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Hanley Ecclesiastical parish: Hanley St Luke County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
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Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Stoke upon Trent Sub-registration district: Hanley ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 268 Household Members: Name Age Saml Bolderson 50 Charlotte Bolderson 44 Maria Bolderson 19 Samuel Bolderson 16 Henry Bolderson 14 Olive Bolderson 11 Edward Bolderson 9 Harold Bolderson 7 Lily Bolderson 6 Ethel Bolderson 3 so maybe not the right family, any of these names ring a bell??
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19 May 2010 01:40 |
Samuel Bolderson Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relation: Relative (Other Relative) Gender: Male Where born: Burslem, Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Stoke Upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Wellington Town: Hanley County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Hanley ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Arthur S Kellam 27 Olive Kellam 31 Samuel J Kellam 5/12 Samuel Bolderson 45 Charlotte Kellam 34 Mistranscribed should be Bolderson Harriett Kellam 16 " Samuel Kellam 6 " Henry Kellam 5 " Olive Kellam 1 " Edward Kellam 7/12 "
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19 May 2010 01:37 |
Births Dec 1874 (>99%) Bolderson Harriet Ann Wolstanton 6b 145
Births Sep 1881 (>99%) Bolderson Maria Wolstanton 6b 111
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Vicci
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19 May 2010 01:36 |
1881 Samuel Bolderson Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1850 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Charlotte Gender: Male Where born: Staffordshire, England Civil parish: Wolstanton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street Address: High Park Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: Coal Miner Registration district: Wolstanton Sub-registration district: Tunstall ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Samuel Bolderson 31 Charlotte Bolderson 24 Henrietta Bolderson 6
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19 May 2010 00:57 |
Ah ... I stand corrected ! Different spelling threw me.
Good shot Ann.
------------ Can't see a likely birth for Emily now.
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**Ann**
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19 May 2010 00:51 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Dec 1874 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BOLDERSON Samuel Wolstanton 6b 187 CLEWES Mary Ann Wolstanton 6b 187 HUNT John Mt. Bosworth 6b 187 Jones Charlotte Wolstanton 6b 187 Rigby John Wolstanton 6b 187
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19 May 2010 00:48 |
I wonder if anyone could find her on a passenger list. Maybe she went to Australia with her parents.
Just as a matter of interest, I have an Australian death cert for an Uncle. It gives his mother's name as Elizabeth. This was actually his first wife. His mother's name was Maria !!!!!
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19 May 2010 00:44 |
This is the marriage for the parents found in 1881
Marriages Dec 1866 Balderston John - Blackburn 8e 506 COWELL Christiana - Blackburn 8e 506 --------------------------------
Can't find any marriage for a Samuel and Charlotte !
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19 May 2010 00:36 |
marriage
1362/1908 COOPER ROBERT G BAULDERSTONE EMILY COOTAMUNDRA
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19 May 2010 00:34 |
this is emily's death record in NSW
1588/1925 COOPER EMILY SAMUEL CHARLOTTE NORTH SYDNEY
so parent's were Samuel and Charlotte
the AUS death certificates give a lot of info, so definitely worth buying it.
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19 May 2010 00:17 |
This is her in 1881... It would appear her parents were John and Christiana (unless birth cert says otherwise )
Household:
John BALDERSTON Head M Male 33 Layland Cab Driver Christiana BALDERSTON Wife M Female 32 York, England Robert BALDERSTON Son U Male 12 Blackburn, Lancashire, England Scholar Half Time ...............Emily BALDERSTON Daur U Female 7 Blackburn, Lancashire, England Scholar William BALDERSTON Son Male > 2 Blackburn, Lancashire, England Etta BALDERSTON Daur Female 6 m Blackburn, Lancashire, England Emily COWELL Border M Female 30 York, England Cotton Weaver Alice COWELL Border M Female 20 Blackburn Cotton Weaver Elizabeth Jane COWELL Border Female 19 Blackburn, Lancashire, England Fredrick COWELL Border Male 2 m Blackburn, Lancashire, England
: Dwelling 47 Brook House Lane Census Place Blackburn, Lancashire, England
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19 May 2010 00:14 |
Births Jun 1874 in Lancashire. BALDERSTONE Emily - Blackburn 8e 353
Purchase this certificate and it will tell you who her parents were.
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Kristen
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19 May 2010 00:05 |
I am trying to find my great grandmother Emily Baulderstone presumably born somewhere in England about 1870 (give or take a few years) she migrated to Australia, date & ship unknown, where she married a Robert G. Cooper in 1908 @ Cootamundra, she had one daughter, Charlotte Eveline Cooper in 1910. Emily died tragically (automobile accident?) about 1924, when my Nan was just a teen, hence I have no other information. I would greatly appreciate If someone could shed some light on this &/or Robert G Cooper - b.1863ish, again place of birth unknown, as my family-tree is at a dead end without any info on my great-grand parents. Regards Kris
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