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16 Oct 2009 14:09 |
Hi I am trying to tie up one side of the family and would just like to ask if anyone can help. I have a Laura Jones Rogers born in 1843, Caernarfon to Hugh and Grace Rogers. I know she married a ships captain and went to sea with him, and that she had 2 daughters (possibly other children). I believe the daughters were called Margaret and Lowri (Lowry) but this could be inaccurate.
I think I have found her marriage Laura Rogers in 1866, Anglesey to either a Richard Hughes or Hugh Williams.
I was hoping to find her under with Laura Williams or Laura Hughes on a census to confirm that her husband was a mariner and trace the children but have had no success. I have also failed dismally to trace the births of any children under both these names (ancestry and familysearch mainly).
The whole of Laura Rogers family were mariners or married to mariners, and seemed to be either found in Bangor, caernarfon or Anglesey, or Liverpool or they have gone to sea with many ending up in Shanghai.
Having said all this I am may be barking up the wrong tree as her father was a ships Captain and 2 of Laura's sisters got married on board their fathers ship, so I guess this is a possibility for Laura as well. Her father was master of the Glenmannia. I am also aware the children may have been born 'at sea' or aboard.
Can anyone help, have I missed something with her marriage and then married life.
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Vicki
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Barbara
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16 Oct 2009 14:27 |
Theres this one:-
1871 census transcription details for: Helygog Fach, Dolgelley Brithdirisa National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 5691 Folio: 30 Page: 5 Reg. District: Dolgelly Sub District: Barmouth Parish: Dolgelley Brithdirisa Enum. District: 9 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Helygog Fach, Dolgelley Brithdirisa County: Merionethshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born ROBERTS, Griffith Head M 52 1819 Merionethshire HUGHES, Richd Son-In-Law M 35 1836 Merionethshire HUGHES, Laura Wife F 30 1841 Merionethshire HUGHES, Laura C Daughter F 0 1871 Merionethshire PUGH, John Servant M 16 1855 Merionethshire
or this:-
1871 census transcription details for: Trothill Terrace, Llanbeblig, Carnarvon National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 5719 Folio: 48 Page: 1 Reg. District: Carnarvon Sub District: Carnarvon Parish: Llanbeblig Enum. District: 3 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Carnarvon Address: Trothill Terrace, Llanbeblig, Carnarvon County: Carnarvonshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born HUGHES, Laura Head F 29 1842 Caernarvonshire HUGHES, Elizabeth Daughter F 8 1863 Caernarvonshire HUGHES, Jane Daughter F 6 1865 Caernarvonshire HUGHES, Margret Servant F 60 1811 Caernarvonshire
1871 census transcription details for: Park Glas, Trefdraeth National Archive Reference: RG number: RG10 Piece: 5726 Folio: 122 Page: 13 Reg. District: Bangor Sub District: Beaumaris Parish: Trefdraeth Enum. District: 27C Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Park Glas, Trefdraeth County: Carnarvonshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born WILLIAM, Hugh Head M 48 1823 Anglesey WILLIAM, Laura J Wife F 29 1842 Anglesey WILLIAM, William Son M 6 1865 Anglesey WILLIAM, Hugh Son M 0 1871 Anglesey PARRY, Cathrine Servant F 19 1852 Anglesey WILLIAMS, Ellen Servant F 16 1855 Anglesey
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Rallyreg
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16 Oct 2009 14:28 |
Try contacting the shipping line or owners of the vessel, they may still have the ships log books which would state the details of amy marriage performed at sea
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Victoria
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16 Oct 2009 14:44 |
Barbara many thanks for the census results, i will have to wait until i get home to check the actual census to see if it lists occupation as i am limited to posting and replying via my mobile as at work. Rallyreg, thanks also for your suggestion, will look into that as well
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Oct 2009 14:48 |
LAURA JONES ROGERS Pedigree Female
Event(s): Birth: Christening: 14 JUN 1842 Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, Wales
Parents: Father: HUGH ROGERS Family Mother: GRACE
Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record.
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16 Oct 2009 14:53 |
Further to Mel's find - same batch numbers Hugh and Grace as parents:-
. 3. ELIZABETH ROGERS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 08 DEC 1844 Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, Wales 4. THOMAS LLOYD ROGERS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 16 AUG 1846 Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, Wales 6. SARAH ELLEN ROGERS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 27 MAR 1861 Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, Wales 7. LAURA JONES ROGERS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 14 JUN 1842 Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, Wales 8. MARY ROGERS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 12 JUL 1837 Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, Wales 9. MARGARET ROGERS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 17 FEB 1839 Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, Wales
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Oct 2009 15:20 |
On the 1871 census for Richard he is a Quarryman.
Neither of the men listed with wife Laura are anything to do with the sea as far as I can see BUT the one with Laura J was a lot older than her and a retired Trader so does that mean he was to do with the sea??
You said she had daughters Lowri?? could be Laura. Griffith Rogers was a farmer.
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Victoria
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16 Oct 2009 15:22 |
can i pls ask where you source all your information from! I have spent months searching for stuff, yet in less than an hour you have all found all this out, Mel thanks for christening record & Barbara, the other ones are great, especially the christening date of Elizabeth as there are a few Elizabeth Rogers so wasn't sure which was mine and Sarah Ellen is one i never knew about. I did know that there was a girl who died as an infant so i now wonder if this was Sarah Ellen, i had assumed it was Elizabeth as she is the only one there doesnt seem to be any family history on. So now a new one to research! Also i have a Hugh Rogers born 1854 and a Samuel Rogers born 1855 who are definately children of Hugh and Grace as well.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Oct 2009 15:31 |
I did come across a Lowry Jones Hughes death I think. I am so muddled now I can't remember.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Oct 2009 15:40 |
What I meant to say was I found a Richard Hughes down on one census as a son to parents of another name of Jones!!
Here it is.
1851 Wales Census about Richard Hughes Name: Richard Hughes Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Margaret Gender: Male Where born: Merionethshire, Wales Civil Parish or Township: Gwyddelwern Ecclesiastical parish: St Asaph County/Island: Merionethshire Country: Wales Street Address: View image Condition as to marriage: View image Occupation: View image Disability: View image Registration district: Corwen Sub-registration district: Gwyddelwern ED, institution, or vessel: 6b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Robert Jones 54 Margaret Jones 44 Robert Jones 17 Anne Jones 12 John Jones 10 Thomas Jones 7 Robert Roberts 24 Edward Evans 17 Richard Hughes 15 NO IT DOS'NT READ SON IT READS SERV. FARM LAB.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Oct 2009 15:47 |
Well I don't get Sarah Ellen Rogers 1861 when I go for the other children of Hugh and Grace, I only get these:-
1. ELIZABETH ROGERS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 08 DEC 1844 Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, Wales 2. THOMAS LLOYD ROGERS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 16 AUG 1846 Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, Wales 3. LAURA JONES ROGERS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 14 JUN 1842 Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, Wales 4. MARY ROGERS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 12 JUL 1837 Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, Wales 5. MARGARET ROGERS - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 17 FEB 1839 Llanbeblig, Caernarvon, Wales When I look up Sarah Ellen I get her parents as John Rogers and his wife.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Oct 2009 16:05 |
I have at last found Hugh and Grace on a census!!!!
1881 Wales Census about Hugh Rogers Name: Hugh Rogers Age: 67 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Grace Gender: Male Where born: Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales Civil parish: Llandwrog County/Island: Caernarvonshire Country: Wales Street Address: Bodhyfryd Condition as to marriage: Married Education: View image Employment status: View image Occupation: Merch Service Retired Capt Registration district: Carnarvon Sub-registration district: Llandwrog ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Hugh Rogers 67 Grace Rogers 65 HUGH ROGERS Pedigree Male
Christening: 03 MAR 1814 Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales Parents: Father: THO ROGERS Family Mother: MY
AND JN ROGERS Pedigree Male
Christening: 23 MAY 1816 Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. OOPS!
THO. ROGERS Pedigree Male Family
Marriages: Spouse: MY. THOMAS Family Marriage: 27 JUL 1816 Holyhead, Anglesey, Wales Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record.
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Oct 2009 16:16 |
1861 census and Grace is 45
1861 England Census about Hugh Rogers Name: Hugh Rogers Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Grace Gender: Male Where born: Holyhead, Wales Civil parish: Liverpool Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Liverpool Sub-registration district: St Thomas ED, institution, or vessel: 13h Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 57 Household Members: Name Age Hugh Rogers 47 Grace Rogers 45
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Mel Fairy Godmother
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16 Oct 2009 16:24 |
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Hugh Rogers Name: Hugh Rogers Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814 Year of Registration: 1886 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 72 District: Carnarvon County: Anglesey, Caernarvonshire Volume: 11b Page: 314 But all this is'nt helping us find Laura Jones Rogers.
The only thing I can sujest is to order the marriage cert for Laura Jones Rogers and say you only want it if Laura's father is Hugh a sea captain.
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16 Oct 2009 17:56 |
All that has been a fantastic help, Hugh and Grace are not easy to find on the census' I think it is the 1851 one that Grace is down as Gredel Royers!
As for all the possible leads on Laura Jones Rogers this has been a great help and I didnt even think of ordering the marriage certificate, think this might be the way forward, I had been hoping to confirm if she really did have 2 daugthers by the names of Lowri and Margaret, all I know is she married a ships Captain and went to sea with him for some time, which is all quite vague!
Thank you
Vicki
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Stuart
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27 Sep 2015 17:21 |
I am researching for descendants of Captain Robert Jones who was the Captain of the Clipper Ship Teviotdale in 1876. His address on the ships manifest was given as 3 Britannia Terrace Anglesea.
Any help appreciated
Stuart
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